Shiner is from German and Italian lines with an average lifespan of 10-13 years. I have wanted one from those exact lines for almost 20 years. I had to fly out of state with 10 years of my pictures and pedigrees (and lots of $$$) and spend an entire weekend going over them to get permission to buy one with full breeding rights (in November of 2004). Shiner is worth every dime, every minute, and lives up to every expectation I could have imagined! He turned two in December. He is about 35.5 inches and 185 lbs now. He is gorgeous and big-boned, but still somewhat lanky at this point -- like a 7th grade basketball player, but will continue to fill out over the next year. He should be over 200 lbs full grown. He passes along his gorgeous head, floppy lips, and gentle demeanor to his babies. As I said before, he is the most loving dog in the world... and he loves EVERYBODY!